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Showing posts with label AuDHD. Show all posts

A Complex Discord of Autism and ADHD

A Complex Discord

Autism and ADHD, a complex discord.
In one mind-body how do both strike a chord?

Autism seeks a world slow, steady and same.
Routine's embrace, stability it claims.

ADHD bored by routine, seeks a rapid pace.
Mind, chasing change, an endless race.

Risk averse autism craves the comfort of the known.
Risk taker ADHD, seeker of the unexplored zone.

Autism insists on the same tasks - present, future, past. 
ADHD craves for 10 new things each moment, a whirlwind cast.

Autism attention zooms inward- seeking comfort within.
ADHD attention flits externally - from thing to thing to thing.

In one mind-body, a battlefield unseen.
Autism's order, ADHD's ever-changing scene.

How can these opposites coexist?
Prefrontal Cortex, all in a twist?

Constant tug of war in this mind-body.
An unanswered quandary, how do I find clarity?

Navigating the intersection of AuDHD (Autism and ADHD)

I've had the combined diagnosis of Autism and ADHD (AuDHD) since age 3.  What does having a combination diagnosis look like?  [A Plain Language version at the end of post]

Autism and ADHD often co-occur, a combination referred to as AuDHD by many self-advocates. Together, they form a unique blend of traits that can sometimes be contradictory, affecting various areas of life, from relationships and academic performance to sensory processing and emotional well-being. Understanding AuDHD involves recognizing how the need for routine and predictability (autism) intersects with a craving for novelty and spontaneity (ADHD). 

Contradictory Traits: Sameness vs. Novelty

One of the key challenges of AuDHD is the internal conflict between autism’s preference for routine and ADHD’s need for newness. Autistic individuals often thrive in predictable environments that reduce anxiety and create a sense of control. In contrast, ADHD pushes for novelty, leading to restlessness or boredom with repetitive tasks.

For someone with AuDHD (or AutDer), this contradiction can cause significant internal tension. The autistic side may seek consistency, while the ADHD side yearns for new experiences. This constant push and pull can result in stress and frustration, as they struggle to balance these opposing needs.

Sensory Processing: Overwhelm and Seeking Input

Sensory challenges are common in both autism and ADHD, and in AuDHD, these can intensify. Autistics may experience hypersensitivity to stimuli—lights may feel too bright, sounds too loud, or textures uncomfortable—leading to sensory overload. ADHD, on the other hand, may result in increased distractibility and a heightened need for sensory input, such as fidgeting or movement.

This combination means that individuals with AuDHD (or AutDers) may frequently feel overwhelmed by their environment or seek out additional sensory stimulation to stay focused. For example, stimming (repetitive behaviors like tapping or rocking) may become more frequent or intense as a means to self-regulate. [More detail on this at this link]

Cognitive Styles: Hyperfocus vs. Distractibility

AuDHD significantly impacts cognitive styles, with autistic individuals often demonstrating hyperfocus—intense concentration on a particular interest for extended periods. This can be a strength when aligned with personal or professional goals, but it may make switching tasks difficult.

ADHD, by contrast, brings distractibility, where maintaining focus on tasks that aren’t immediately engaging becomes challenging. AutDers might experience cycles of hyperfocus followed by difficulty completing less stimulating tasks, leading to issues with time management and task completion.

Social Identity and Stigma

AutDers often face challenges related to identity and belonging. The dual diagnosis may make it difficult to fit neatly into autism or ADHD communities, leading to feelings of isolation. Additionally, misunderstanding of how AuDHD manifests can contribute to societal stigma, with people often being misperceived as lazy, disorganized, or socially awkward. This lack of awareness can result in inadequate accommodations in school, work, and social settings.

Relationships and Family Dynamics

Maintaining personal relationships can be a significant challenge for those with AuDHD. Autism can bring difficulties in reading social cues and understanding nonverbal communication, while ADHD may add impulsivity and distractibility to interactions. Together, these traits can cause misunderstandings or strain in romantic relationships, friendships, or family dynamics.

Academic and Workplace Performance

In academic settings, the need for structure (autism) and the tendency to procrastinate or get distracted (ADHD) may clash, making it hard for AutDers to meet deadlines or engage in group work. Similarly, in the workplace, inflexible environments that don’t account for the needs of those with AuDHD may result in job dissatisfaction or burnout. However, with appropriate accommodations, such as flexible schedules and task-focused roles, AutDers often excel in creative problem-solving and innovation.

Emotional Sensitivity and Interpersonal Conflict

Both autism and ADHD are associated with emotional sensitivity, and AuDHD can heighten this trait. Individuals may become overwhelmed by criticism or social rejection, overthink social interactions, or feel emotionally exhausted by perceived failures or misunderstandings. The combination of difficulty in social understanding (autism) and impulsivity (ADHD) may also lead to frequent interpersonal conflict.

Executive Functioning: Organization and Planning Struggles

AutDers often experience challenges in organizing, planning, and managing time due to the combination of autism’s need for structure and ADHD’s impulsivity. Individuals may feel overwhelmed by the need to create detailed plans but struggle to implement them effectively. This can lead to feelings of frustration, especially when routine gets disrupted.

Emotional Regulation and Mental Health

Both autism and ADHD are linked to emotional dysregulation, and their combination in AuDHD can intensify this. The internal conflict between the need for routine (autism) and the craving for novelty (ADHD) often leads to anxiety. ADHD’s impulsivity can contribute to emotional outbursts, which can result in guilt or heightened social anxiety later. Over time, the struggle to navigate these conflicting traits may lead to emotional exhaustion or burnout.

Self-Esteem and Identity

AuDHD can also impact self-esteem. Individuals may struggle with societal expectations that conflict with their neurodivergent traits, leading to feelings of inadequacy. The clash between needing structure (autism) and having difficulty with focus or organization (ADHD) can leave people feeling as though they are falling short, especially in school or work environments where both conditions are often misunderstood.

Physical Health: Sleep and Motor Coordination

Both autism and ADHD are linked to sleep disturbances. Autism can make it hard to fall asleep due to sensory sensitivities or the need for specific routines, while ADHD may result in restlessness. Combined, AuDHD can make restful sleep difficult, leading to daytime fatigue and irritability.

Motor coordination may also be impacted, as both conditions are associated with clumsiness or dyspraxia (developmental coordination disorder). This can affect confidence in activities like sports or even daily tasks like driving.

The Bigger Picture: Neurology and Physiology in AuDHD

Neurologically, AuDHD affects several areas of the brain, particularly the prefrontal cortex, which manages executive function, planning, and decision-making. ADHD often involves dysregulation in dopamine pathways, affecting reward processing and motivation, while autism involves differences in connectivity between brain regions, particularly in areas related to social cognition and sensory processing.

These neurological differences can result in heightened sensory sensitivity, fluctuations in attention, and difficulty managing emotions. The combination of these traits can also make it harder to filter out distractions or regulate behavior, leading to emotional stress or frustration.

Sensory-Motor Coordination and Physical Health

Both autism and ADHD can lead to motor coordination challenges, but when combined in AuDHD, these issues may be even more pronounced. Individuals may struggle with fine motor tasks like handwriting or sports, impacting confidence in physical activities. Additionally, balancing routines with ADHD's impulsivity can affect physical health routines like exercise, meal planning, and sleep.

In Essence…

AuDHD is more than just a combination of autism and ADHD traits. It creates a unique set of challenges that require personalized strategies to thrive. While the need for routine may clash with the desire for novelty, understanding these complexities opens the door to both challenges and strengths. Tailored support is essential for individuals with AuDHD to find balance and success in daily life.

By addressing sensory sensitivities, understanding cognitive differences, and providing appropriate accommodations, individuals with AuDHD can harness their unique strengths while managing their complex needs

PlainSpeak: A plain language version for the lay reader. 

Navigating Life with AuDHD

Autism and ADHD are two conditions that often occur together, known by many as AuDHD. While both have unique traits, they can sometimes seem at odds with each other. Autism often comes with a need for routine and predictability, while ADHD tends to seek novelty and excitement. This mix can create challenges in many areas of life, from social interactions to managing sensory input, attention, and emotions.

Conflicting Needs: Routine vs. Newness

People with autism often find comfort in routines and predictability, which help reduce anxiety and manage sensory overload. ADHD, on the other hand, thrives on new experiences and gets bored with repetition. This combination can make daily life feel like a tug-of-war between craving stability and wanting change.

Sensory Overload vs. Sensory Seeking

Both autism and ADHD can impact how a person handles sensory input. Autistic individuals may be sensitive to bright lights, loud sounds, or certain textures, making them prone to sensory overload. ADHD can add another layer, making it harder to filter out distractions or even leading to seeking out sensory experiences (like fidgeting). Together, these traits can make it tough to find a comfortable sensory balance.

Focus: Hyperfocus vs. Distraction

Autistic individuals can sometimes hyperfocus, becoming deeply absorbed in something they’re passionate about for long periods. ADHD brings in distractibility, making it harder to stay on task, especially when something isn't interesting. With both, a person may swing between being super focused on some things but easily distracted by others, making time management challenging.

Social Struggles

Social interactions can be tough for AutDers (people with AuDHD). Autism may bring difficulties with understanding social cues or communication norms, while ADHD might lead to impulsive actions like interrupting conversations. This combination can cause misunderstandings and social fatigue, where engaging with others becomes exhausting.

Organization and Planning

Both autism and ADHD can make it hard to plan, organize, and manage time. Autism often brings a need for structure, but ADHD's impulsivity might disrupt that structure, leading to procrastination or forgetfulness. This creates frustration, especially when trying to stick to a routine or meet deadlines.

Emotional Challenges and Mental Health

The emotional toll of managing both autism and ADHD can be significant. Both conditions are linked to anxiety and depression, and having both can make emotional regulation even harder. The conflict between needing routine and seeking novelty can cause internal stress, leading to emotional exhaustion or burnout.

Impact on Self-Esteem

Having AuDHD can affect self-esteem, especially when people don’t meet societal expectations. The need for structure in autism might clash with ADHD's distractibility, leading to feelings of inadequacy, particularly in school or work environments that don’t understand their challenges.

Physical Health: Sleep and Movement

Sleep can be tough for those with AuDHD. Autism may cause sleep difficulties due to sensory sensitivities, while ADHD may lead to restlessness. This combination can result in sleep disturbances, leading to daytime fatigue. Motor coordination may also be affected, making physical activities like sports harder to engage in confidently.

The Bigger Picture

AuDHD is more than just a blend of autism and ADHD traits. The combination creates unique challenges, but also opportunities for growth and strengths. With the right strategies and support, AutDers can learn to manage their needs and thrive in ways that work for them.




SWAN - Strengths and Weaknesses of ADHD Symptoms and Normal Behavior

Lexicon [Measures]- SWAN


The SWAN is more for ADHD and not designed specifically for autism. 

The SWAN (Strengths and Weaknesses of ADHD Symptoms and Normal Behavior) Rating Scale is a tool to assess ADHD symptoms in children and adolescents. 


The SWAN Rating Scale consists of 18 items that capture various domains of ADHD symptoms, including inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity. It uses a Likert-type scale ranging from 0 (far below average) to 3 (far above average) to rate the presence and severity of each symptom. The scale can be completed by parents, teachers, or other caregivers who have regular contact with the child.

Scoring of the SWAN involves summing the ratings for each item to obtain a total score. Higher scores indicate greater ADHD symptomatology. The scale also allows for the calculation of subscale scores for inattention and hyperactivity/impulsivity. 


Limitations with its use in autism. 
  • Lack of specificity: The SWAN focuses on ADHD symptoms and may not capture the full range of challenges and behaviors associated with autism. Autistics may exhibit ADHD symptoms as part of their broader autism profile, but there may be additional symptoms and impairments not assessed by the SWAN.
  • Difficulty differentiating symptoms: Some symptoms of ADHD, such as inattention, can overlap with symptoms of autism, making it challenging to disentangle the two conditions based solely on the SWAN. 

The SWAN Rating Scale was developed by Dr. Stephen J. Kupper in 2006. 

27 Genetic Variants Linked to ADHD

 https://neurosciencenews.com/genetics-adhd-22476/


"imbalance in dopamine in the brains of people with ADHD is partly attributable to genetic risk factors"

"7,300 common genetic variants that increase the risk of ADHD. It is particularly interesting that the vast majority of these variants—84-98 percent—also have an influence on other mental disorders, e.g. autism, depression and schizophrenia"

Comorbidity of ADHD puts you at higher risk for Mental Health

This article on ADHD talks about research from Bath University in the UK. 

Essentially it says

  • Mental health risk higher in ADHD alone > Mental Health risk in Autism alone
  • The risk is higher when there are co-morbidities (ie: Autism+ADHD)
Research confirms what many us have already felt and known about comorbidity of Autism+ADHD. The net effect is not a simple sum, but exponential. 

What makes me sad is for the most part stimulant meds seem to work ADHD like they are supposed to. But when it comes to autism+ADHD, the same meds are still a wild guess and most don't work in autism like they do in the non-autism population with paradoxical effects.